Just...

[Cooter]

...picked up my tickets for Pres. Obama's town hall meeting in L.A. tomorrow, lucky to win a lottery for tickets, only 1100 people will be in attendance! Next up, winning the Mega Millions lottery...gotta strike while the iron is hot!

[festivalfan]

wow.. you did get lucky. saw the people camping out for tickets... congrats. do you have your question ready?

[Rose]

I've got a question for you to ask Obama. Since my Roth IRA has taken a 70% hit (from my original investment money...we are not talking any gains and I've already paid taxes on this money) I should be able to remove what remains of my money without any penalties. At this point I'm more worried about a roof over my head and food on my plate TODAY rather then when I'm 70.

[Kymery]

Cooter's gonna end up with a book to carry in full of questions. I bet we have tons for him!

[Countrygurl]

ask him if his wife has any dresses with sleeves..

[Kymery]

ask him if his wife has any dresses with sleeves..

Hehe...I needed that laugh! Now that was a good question.

[Hankdog]

I'll tell you what, there's three things that I don't care if I ever hear about ever again:

Michelle Obama's arms
How that Chris Brown dude smacked around that woman
and that damn nut job lady who had 8 kids or whatever

Are there not more important things to report on? Is this stuff that people actually care about?

[festivalfan]

hmm.. good list..
I , too am sick of Octo-mom.....sick of John and Ken bashing state employees,

but I am PISSED about AIG !

[hodgee5]

I live 5 minutes from octo mom, imagine what Im going through lol

[Hankdog]

I live 5 minutes from octo mom, imagine what Im going through lol

Dude you have my condolences.

[Hankdog]

hmm.. good list..
I , too am sick of Octo-mom.....sick of John and Ken bashing state employees,

but I am PISSED about AIG !

Don't get me started on AIG. Who are John & Ken?

[Cooter]

hmm.. good list..
I , too am sick of Octo-mom.....sick of John and Ken bashing state employees,

but I am PISSED about AIG !

the bonuses were for retention of the only people who can keep that company from going under. if those employees left, aig would most likely go under. if aig goes under the shit will hit the fan like never before. $167 million is pennies out of the ~$800 billion. this manufactured outrage on the part of the politicians is ridiculous. want to see aig cease to exist? be prepared to also see the collapse of the world's financial markets.

[Kymery]

the bonuses were for retention of the only people who can keep that company from going under. if those employees left, aig would most likely go under. if aig goes under the shit will hit the fan like never before. $167 million is pennies out of the ~$800 billion. this manufactured outrage on the part of the politicians is ridiculous.

Are you serious?? They are really the ONLY people that can work for a company and do an excellent job? BS!!! They ran their company into the ground...couldn't be doing that good of a job!!

Bonus's are BS if they don't perform..and they did NOT perform. They are lucky to just have jobs these days!! My hours are cut again this week. There are plenty of people in line for their jobs and will do just as good and appreciate their jobs, and not beg for their damn bonus'!

Our company did very poorly, so I didn't get my bonus..and I am not crying about it! It is business!!!

[Cooter]

they were not performance bonuses, they were retention bonuses. no one seems to understand that. if important executives left they could not bring someone in who does not know the internal workings of the company and expect them to jump right in immediately and be knowledgeable about what needs to be done.

[Hankdog]

Are you serious?? They are really the ONLY people that can work for a company and do an excellent job? BS!!! They ran their company into the ground...couldn't be doing that good of a job!!

Bonus's are BS if they don't perform..and they did NOT perform. They are lucky to just have jobs these days!! My hours are cut again this week. There are plenty of people in line for their jobs and will do just as good and appreciate their jobs, and not beg for their damn bonus'!

Our company did very poorly, so I didn't get my bonus..and I am not crying about it! It is business!!!


Yeah I'd like to know where to sign up so that I too can be a CEO who runs the company into the ground and then gets a fat bonus for it.

[festivalfan]

Don't get me started on AIG. Who are John & Ken?

Radio Talk Show hosts.... not conservative, not liberal, but they rile up the troops, they uncover the truth....& tell it like it is...
AM, KFI 640, 3-7 pm

[festivalfan]

they were not performance bonuses, they were retention bonuses. no one seems to understand that. if important executives left they could not bring someone in who does not know the internal workings of the company and expect them to jump right in immediately and be knowledgeable about what needs to be done.

Bullshit....
how many of those execs have already left the company...
how much did the federal gov't give to AIG?
why does a FAILING company exec deserve a bonus?
look how much those bonuses were...
again.. why doe the EXECS deserve a bonus??

[Cooter]

because if they all leave aig collapses and then the shit hits the fan.

pay a little and stop this or let them go and watch the economic collapse of THE WORLD'S FINANCIAL MARKETS? hmm?

they need to stick around and fix this mess they created, with everyone watching now they have no choice but to do so. if it takes a little bit of money, and in the grand scheme of things this is a pittance, then by all means pay it and get things fixed.

[festivalfan]

they didn't pay "a little" cooter...the bounuses were upwards of 1 mil to greedy rat bastard execs and ceo's. some were $6 mil checks.
AIG will not be allowed to collapse.. that's why they were given bail out money...it's the bonuses and perks they were rewarded that ticks me off.

[Kymery]

they were not performance bonuses, they were retention bonuses. no one seems to understand that. if important executives left they could not bring someone in who does not know the internal workings of the company and expect them to jump right in immediately and be knowledgeable about what needs to be done.

Bullll!!! Come on, people come into new companies all the time and learn the ropes.! It isn't a secret how to operate in a company in a specific role.

Retention, smention....I don't care what it is called...they did not know how to run that company..so to say they need their babysitting money is BS. Like FF said...look how many left already...11 last I heard!! Take their money and run.

I guess us people...loosing our money is ok for you then? We lost our home, my hours are 10 now instead of 40, unemployment running out, husbands work down to 3-4 days a week...yeah great, retirements depleting...and they are allowed to live high on the hog?

You have to hold people responsible for their actions and theirs sucked..then they left! BRING IN SOME FRESH MEET...someone who appreciates their job and doesn't take it as a joke.

I have worked with these type of people. They are spoiled babies...and since they know damn well they have their little funds of money waiting for them no matter what their performance is, they lack in work! 3 hours lunches, company cars taken on vacations, expense reports that buy everything but company necessities! As a bookkeeper and human resources manager, I have seen it all!!

[Rose]

Ignorance is bliss....that's one of the many reasons why I hated doing payroll. President would walk into the office and request another paycheck (all the time). Last couple of months of 08 he doubled his pay to contribute 100% of the amount limited to contribute to a new 401K plan without seeing a pay decrease while he cut 70% of the work force and the ones left he asked them to take pay cuts.

When the IRS came in and audited the company mid last year we thought he was really going to get hit. They overlooked him purchasing company vehicles for his kids and all the tickets they received and them being on the payroll even when they didn't work there. All his personal credit card expenses for jewlery, food and trips that he had posted to job expenses. I could go on and on. He see's no reason to stop this practice since he gets away with it.

[Kymery]

Yep...so to say the AIG asses are any better!! Yeah, us pee-on's have to sit back and watch them steal!

Boy I was getting all steamed up while baking my cookies.

You know...to say they need those dumbasses to stay cuz you cant train someone new to come in....well, the CEO's don't really do crap, it is their "assistants" who do all the work! Anyone can tell someone to pull reports, type up something, research this, pull that....The CEO just sits on his lazy arse.

So...Cooter do you also believe all those fancy parties they put on for "moral" support and to impress their clients to show they are still in the game was ok too?

[Cooter]

it's peon. nothing to do with getting peed on, although it may feel that way ;)

[Kymery]

it's peon. nothing to do with getting peed on, although it may feel that way ;)

potato. (with or without the E) potawto....

Pee on's the ones they piss on.

Per the "pee on" logo's I go it correct..but per wiki you got it correct...I will go with the slang.hahah

[oil_spill_bill]

I think that everyone from Obama down, Government, School districts, private businesses, ect, should reduce perks and take small pay cuts (3 to 5 %) to try and keep everyone working.
Unemployed people do not help the economy. It should be mandatory to make changes and try to afford to keep people at their jobs, exhaust every other possibility, before laying folks off.
But thats probably to simple of a way to look at things I guess

[socalcountrygrl]

Hee Hee Hee....Where Do You Find These Things???? Made Me Laugh :)

[Kymery]

Hee Hee Hee....Where Do You Find These Things???? Made Me Laugh :)

Google!!:D

[festivalfan]

I think that everyone from Obama down, Government, School districts, private businesses, ect, should reduce perks and take small pay cuts (3 to 5 %) to try and keep everyone working.
Unemployed people do not help the economy. It should be mandatory to make changes and try to afford to keep people at their jobs, exhaust every other possibility, before laying folks off.
But thats probably to simple of a way to look at things I guess

Not a bad plan...
we need to take care of eachother. I feel so sad when I see small mom and pop companies closing their doors-Reataurants, card shops, deli's dry cleaners, so many now gone. I have a cabin in the mountains (green valley lake) our one and only restaurant...our local hang out just closed their doors. Very sad. I try and support the local businesses.

[socalcountrygrl]

Google!!:D

Hilarious :D

[oil_spill_bill]

I was at a school board meeting with my girlfriend, she's a Teacher, and I was thinking about all the perks and salaries that the supervisors get and they are laying of the people who do the work that gets them paid. I thought up the idea, then I thought, it needs to start at the top (Obama, and in Cali, Arnold) and set the example.
There are people that are to greedy to allow it to work but what else is there?

Like I said probably to simple of a plan

[Kymery]

Very true!!

[socalcountrygrl]

Maybe Obama Can Get Together With Arnold and Find Out Where My State Income Tax Return Is At.....hmmmm

[oil_spill_bill]

I think we should run the country, it would definitely be a fun place to live

[Kymery]

Maybe Obama Can Get Together With Arnold and Find Out Where My State Income Tax Return Is At.....hmmmm

DITTO!!! My sons finally says it was processed on the 13th, so should hit our acct in 10 bus days...but mine..waiting for the process date.

You can check on line ya now..http://www.ftb.ca.gov/index.shtml

[tgcali]

Where's mine? No word. Not surprised either.

[Rose]

DITTO!!! My sons finally says it was processed on the 13th, so should hit our acct in 10 bus days...but mine..waiting for the process date.

You can check on line ya now..http://www.ftb.ca.gov/index.shtml

Thanks for that link Kymery. It said that I was authorized on 3-11 and it should take 10 business days to be electronically deposited.

I received my Fed refund back on February 1st.

[socalcountrygrl]

Thanx For The Tax Link Kymery....Went Through The Process and Was Given A Toll Free Number To Call and Speak To A Representative :( Not Good...Sitting On Hold. Story Of My Life!

[honkytonkangel]

the bonuses were for retention of the only people who can keep that company from going under. if those employees left, aig would most likely go under. if aig goes under the shit will hit the fan like never before. $167 million is pennies out of the ~$800 billion. this manufactured outrage on the part of the politicians is ridiculous. want to see aig cease to exist? be prepared to also see the collapse of the world's financial markets.

Too bad those "retention" bonuses were given to people who already LEFT....such a crock...
Funny but those "special" people, who are the only ones who can keep AIG from going under, ARE THE SAME EFFING PEOPLE WHO DROVE THEM INTO THE GROUND IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!!

[honkytonkangel]

Yeah I'd like to know where to sign up so that I too can be a CEO who runs the company into the ground and then gets a fat bonus for it.

I am with you Hankdog!! I would LOVE to have a job where I could FAIL MISERABLEY, and not only KEEP my job, but RAPE the taxpayers for a SUPER-MEGA-FAT BONUS!!! Sounds like a no-brainer to me!!!

[honkytonkangel]

because if they all leave aig collapses and then the shit hits the fan.

pay a little and stop this or let them go and watch the economic collapse of THE WORLD'S FINANCIAL MARKETS? hmm?

they need to stick around and fix this mess they created, with everyone watching now they have no choice but to do so. if it takes a little bit of money, and in the grand scheme of things this is a pittance, then by all means pay it and get things fixed.

And for those that REMAIN at AIG, why do they need to be PAID to STAY?? Who the hell else would hire them?!?!? Hmmmm wow, drove one of the largest financial/insurance institutions into the ground, made HORRIBLE, SELFISH decisions, WOW, YOU'RE HIRED!!!

[socalcountrygrl]

Why Do Lil' Ole Nobody People Like Us See The Big Picture....But Those Making The Big Bucks Dont??

[festivalfan]

Why Do Lil' Ole Nobody People Like Us See The Big Picture....But Those Making The Big Bucks Dont??

It's corruption at the highest level, with a wink and a nod.
It's a basic principle of INTEGRITY, which some do not have.

[Hankdog]

It's corruption at the highest level, with a wink and a nod.
It's a basic principle of INTEGRITY, which some do not have.

The new avatar is sweet!

[honkytonkangel]

And NOW we find out some of the companies receiving bailout money ARE DELINQUENT IN TAXES!!!! WTF?!?!?!

This is a CLUSTER-FUCK of EPIC PROPORTIONS!!!

[Rose]

The new avatar is sweet!

It's about darn time she got one!!! :D

[Rose]

I'm looking for Cooter in the audience. Anybody spot him yet?

[Kymery]

And NOW we find out some of the companies receiving bailout money ARE DELINQUENT IN TAXES!!!! WTF?!?!?!

This is a CLUSTER-FUCK of EPIC PROPORTIONS!!!

damn dont hold back girl!! hahahahaah

[wagonwheelfestival]

I think we should run the country, it would definitely be a fun place to live

You got that right! hahaha... Anything like this forum board and we'd be in big trouble though, hahahah.. j/k Good times!

[wagonwheelfestival]

they were not performance bonuses, they were retention bonuses. no one seems to understand that. if important executives left they could not bring someone in who does not know the internal workings of the company and expect them to jump right in immediately and be knowledgeable about what needs to be done.

If we all ran companies this way then everyone would be out of business... No one seems to get that if you give bonuses like that out when companies are in dire need then the company will go under with or without these people. Besides that anyone who supports those over-bloated bonuses for people that are running this country into the ground should be ashamed of themselves... That is not right... That's part of the reason why this country is in big trouble right now, why we are receiving IOU's!

[festivalfan]

It's about darn time she got one!!! :D

The new avatar is sweet!

You bet!! I was waiting till the right one came along !!! glad you like it !!

[festivalfan]

I'm looking for Cooter in the audience. Anybody spot him yet?

ummm... this is like playing where's waldo !!

[Cooter]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/forgotaboutsteve/95e3c4ca.jpg

[Rose]

Great pic Cooter...thanks for sharing.

What was it like being there?
I could hear a few boo's amungst the cheers when Arnold was introduced.

[KC4avon]

Ignorance is bliss....that's one of the many reasons why I hated doing payroll. President would walk into the office and request another paycheck (all the time). Last couple of months of 08 he doubled his pay to contribute 100% of the amount limited to contribute to a new 401K plan without seeing a pay decrease while he cut 70% of the work force and the ones left he asked them to take pay cuts.

When the IRS came in and audited the company mid last year we thought he was really going to get hit. They overlooked him purchasing company vehicles for his kids and all the tickets they received and them being on the payroll even when they didn't work there. All his personal credit card expenses for jewlery, food and trips that he had posted to job expenses. I could go on and on. He see's no reason to stop this practice since he gets away with it.


Hey Rose did you work in Escondido? Wow! Word for word a Co. I know. I finally went in & said I wanted to be on payroll to stay away, like his wife. I didn't get as much as his wife got--boss & my hubby both like me--they didn't like the other wife--ha ha. Stayed on payroll the entire time. As is every friggin family member, distant relative & every woman who "cleaned under his desk". Me? I don't clean for anyone but my hubby.

Thanks for the interesting thread y'all. Nice insight into some of you.

Taxes? Uh, I'll file in Oct & take what little interest I can earn til then.

Octo Mom? Pop her lips & sew her up, that's what I have to say about her.

[oil_spill_bill]

I don't like the way the government is using taxes to get the money back. I do think the money should come back, but what if some government person decides he needs a new car "Hey lets just impose a 90% tax on Mr. oil spill bill" this sets a president where the government can hit you with a huge tax just cuz. They should demand the money back and threaten jail time for mishandling the funds.

What do I know I'm just an old Roughneck

[Kymery]

I don't like the way the government is using taxes to get the money back. I do think the money should come back, but what if some government person decides he needs a new car "Hey lets just impose a 90% tax on Mr. oil spill bill" this sets a president where the government can hit you with a huge tax just cuz. They should demand the money back and threaten jail time for mishandling the funds.

What do I know I'm just an old Roughneck

I agree, I would be fired if I mis-spent any money!!

[Hankdog]

I agree, I would be fired if I mis-spent any money!!

What I want to know is, how do I get a job as a CEO where I can run the company right into the ground and then get a huge cash reward? Where do you sign up for that? Isn't capitalism swell.

[festivalfan]

What I want to know is, how do I get a job as a CEO where I can run the company right into the ground and then get a huge cash reward? Where do you sign up for that? Isn't capitalism swell.

I hear AIG is hiring... the bonuses are written into their contract.

[Hankdog]

I hear AIG is hiring... the bonuses are written into their contract.

The only downside is the death threats.

[Rose]

Hey Rose did you work in Escondido? Wow! Word for word a Co. I know. I finally went in & said I wanted to be on payroll to stay away, like his wife. I didn't get as much as his wife got--boss & my hubby both like me--they didn't like the other wife--ha ha. Stayed on payroll the entire time. As is every friggin family member, distant relative & every woman who "cleaned under his desk". Me? I don't clean for anyone but my hubby.

Thanks for the interesting thread y'all. Nice insight into some of you.

Taxes? Uh, I'll file in Oct & take what little interest I can earn til then.

Octo Mom? Pop her lips & sew her up, that's what I have to say about her.

Never worked in Escondido hehehe

I've worked for worse. This one company I worked for ran two sets of books. One set for goverment grants and loans and another set for taxes. This same owner (married with children) had a hotel room down the street and any female in the company could join him for $500.00. I heard that it was about 15-20 minutes worth of work. We are talking the early 80's.

[KC4avon]

Yep, 80's were a tough time for a young gal. I had a couple "stupervisors" fired in the 80's. Lost my big case cuz it wasn't considered harassment cuz he really did follow thru w/the gifts--houseful of furniture, flights to lunch anywhere in CA. Huh? Strange, but his house of cards eventully fell. I left the Co after almost 20 yrs. They still talk about me. I set the standard to end the crap, but my work life was horrific the entire time I was there. Took my retirement & took my hubby on a 10 day $1000 per day cruise to make up for all the misery. Other than a paycheck to avoid work, I'll never punch another time clock.

[Kymery]

Yep, 80's were a tough time for a young gal. I had a couple "stupervisors" fired in the 80's. Lost my big case cuz it wasn't considered harassment cuz he really did follow thru w/the gifts--houseful of furniture, flights to lunch anywhere in CA. Huh? Strange, but his house of cards eventully fell. I left the Co after almost 20 yrs. They still talk about me. I set the standard to end the crap, but my work life was horrific the entire time I was there. Took my retirement & took my hubby on a 10 day $1000 per day cruise to make up for all the misery. Other than a paycheck to avoid work, I'll never punch another time clock.

Good for you!! I hate punching..love working from home..but I know that will change when I get my LVN! ughhhhh

[KC4avon]

I started college to become an LVN--family full of MD's, RN's & phd's. I became an EMT cuz I liked driving & needed $$. Loved working wkends in ER too. Theeeeeeeeen I saw a little kid injured by the parents, realized like becoming a Vet. I couldn't stomache the little one's.
Stuck w/driving, til I realized I wasn't a fan of crazy people.
I'll sit here on the sofa in my jammies, play on the laptop, input orders & make calls & watch the $$ hit the bank.